Dog bait deaths in Leonora - again!!

The only thing I can think of is the "Rhino bars" on top that hold the solar panel(s).

Except maybe the spare wheel,,,,,,,,,,,it currently sits on the bed after it got ripped clean off, winch cable snapped etc, when we hit a big boondie on the Gibb River Road. It was my own stupid fault and not the Getaway's. Got a bit over ambitiuos at 70 kmh!!

Another story worth telling one day,,,,,,,

Other than that the Supreme Getaway performed flawlessly and I hammered it across a lot of rough tracks as well the Gibb River Road and The Great Central Road. With it being so small I even took it places that a Bushtracker couldn't go - too big 'n too heavy. I highly recommend the "little wonder"


Take care,

Willem,

Yes. we met "The Rambler" whilst filling up fuel at Katherine. He was on his way to Gulf Country I think.

I vaguely remember seeing his nuts in the back of his truck and thinking to myself,"How unusual to keep one nuts in the back of one's truck and such big nuts too!"

Sorry we didn't meet Willem. It woulda been good to yarn,,,,,,,,,,,about TYRES!! I'm going back to splitties for bush work. This trip was the first time for 15 years that I've travelled on "Fatties" and it was worst ever for punctures and rips. It cost me a flamin' fortune!!

Bilbo - "The deflated hobbit"

Yeah mate

After switching to tubeless fatties about 5 years ago(and endless punctures) I have gone back to splits and crossplies as you may know.

This last trek, which included some very rough offtrack excursions, I did not even incur a sidewall cut. The MRF tyres are gaining a good reputation in the bush as a tough tyre with many stations running them on their work vehicles.
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Cheers

It must be deliberate.

1. There's simply too many dead dogs in Leonora compared with other "1080 areas" - Laverton, Mt Magnet, Menzies, Meeka etc

2. Too many were in thier own backyards when they took the bait. i.e It was thrown over the fence.

3. Five confirmed dog deaths in the caravan park alone,,,,,,,,go figure.

Bilbo

When they happen? I can find any information about one dog poisoning yet alone five?

1080 is a S7 poison, which is under very tight restrictions and can't be just thrown around.

Having used 1080 (Sodium Monofluoroacetate) extensively myself on pest destruction boards, I don't follow your logic about it not being toxic to non-feral animals as it kills all warm blooded animals that I know of, and some birds.
An easy way to protect your dog is to attach a length of chain onto one side of a collar which goes around and inside the mouth of the dog and attaches on the other side of the collar - much like a horse bit. I used this kind of muzzle on my dogs
when going through 1080 kill areas and didn't lose any of them, nor did the rest of our pest destruction team. As the baits being used in the park ground would most likely be direct doses it would take only a minute amount to kill a dog.
It is a dangerous poison to handle and only a mongrel would misuse it.
T.R.

There were two last year about this time - I witnessed one myself and had no doubt that the other had died just a day before we got there.
There were 3 others in April/may this year. This info came from a reliable source. One of the deaths was that of her own dog. Finally, the people at Leonora Shire Offices confirmed it all when they responded to my enquiries by stating, "Yes, we have a dog baiting problem in the town and the matter is now in the hands of the WA Police".

You may well not have heard about it. They are hardly likely tp be shouting ot from the roof tops as Leonora depends a lot on prospector tourism for it's income.

Myself, I reckon they should publicise it.

Bilbo

T Ribby,

!080 or Sodium Monoflouro Acetate (SMFA) IS toxic to all warm blooded animals - IN VARYING DEGREES.

Dogs are particularly vulnerable. In fact they are the most vulberable. This due to them being totally carnivorous and due to thier physiology.

Native animals are far less affected by it as SFMA is found in a lot of native plants and trees. Plus, most of Australia's fauna are vegetarian or at worst omnivorous. Hence over thousands of years they have developed a high level of immunity to SMFA. But not a total immunity. Hence it can kill native animals, but it would take about 30 times more SMFA to kill a roo than it would to kill a dog and roos are vegetarian and wouldn't be attracted to a meat based bait.

SMFA is used to kill possums in some states of Oz, but it's then mixed with cereal. It's the cereal that attracts the possums and the doasge of SMFA is much higher than that used to kill dogs, due to the possums built in partial immunity.

Google it. There's tonnes of info on it.

BTW - to say that 1080 is controlled substance is a bit of joke in the Goldfields.. Out there you can get anything - I MEAN ANYTHING - if ya know who to ask.

HF Acid is highly controlled poison but it's all over the place out there and is used for cleaning gold. Ganja, smack, ice, crack, heroin, it's all readily available. In fact ganja is grown in large quantities out there and there are certain areas that it ain't wise to enter.

'Nuff said,,,,,,,,,,,,

Bilbo - "The I know nuffink hobbit"

Hi Larry, I'll only comment on the bits I've had personal experience with.
We used dosed carrot slices dropped by topdressing aircraft for rabbits and possums, and oats with molasses for hand distribution along disc furrows. All mammals that ate the bait died, including several deer goats and pigs. Birds with a crop became very ill but usually survived (wild turkey) It killed some raptors and not others, so as you correctly point out, it depends on the dose strength and on how much they ingest. Dogs are the most at risk and I have unfortunately witnessed several of them dying. It is a cruel way to go, the animal being conscious and in convulsions - however we put them out of their misery with a .22. Farmers had a contempt for 1080 and lost a lot of their top and valuable dogs as we couldn't convince some of them of the risk. I hated using this poison and preferred sodium cyanide and strychnine which both at least have an antidote.
cheers
T.R.

I'd like to add to that last post "both at least have an
antidote, and are quick.
cheers
T.R.

T ribby where was that?
I understand 1080 immunity has a fair bit to do with the area s 1080 containing plants are more prevelent in some areas. For instance Tasmanian natives are very suseptable as there are no 1080 plants there

Hi Davoe.
I During my many travels I worked for quite some time on a North Canterbury Pest destruction board in Un Zud, plus some private fur gathering in the same area. I haven't any knowledge of 1080 bearing flora back here in Oz so can't comment on that. By the sound of it, area flora has a lot to do with resistance.
cheers
T.R.

Davoe,

Ya can hear duelling banjos in that neck of the woods on any afternoon. ;)

Bilbo